JSmails ANH Tusken WIP

[M.J.]

Thank you, I'll have to take a closer look, I do quite a bit of gaming costuming and need to look into other ideas.

Ahh weathering, I tend to test on a spare piece of fabric and work with acrylic paints, they always dry lighter so start of small. 

Spray paint if not used correctly will concentrate onto a certain area even though you dont mean too, its the practise of distance and waving, I tend to have a love hate relationship with sprays, and then of course when the sucker likes to clog and splat. 

If you have the acrylics already have a play and test them out, if you're not happy with the result then look into spray. 

[thebrighton]

On my original outer robe I used spray paint which looked good but it only covered the visible fabric. Occasionally I would catch a thread and it would pull so the painted area suddenly became hidden and the unpainted part of the thread was on show which resulted in a thin, clean stripe running up the robe

[JSmails]

I weathered the skirt Friday night. I finished weathering it and the lower part of the inner robe Saturday. Very peculiar that I don’t have any photos. 
 

I got fully dressed up again yesterday, but no photos. 
 

I had submitted for approval and the GMLs are kind of dragging their feet I guess. 
 

I tried to mod my transport box but the brackets I bought at Home Depot are way too big. I’ll have to look for a different solution soon. 
 

[JSmails]

While I’m waiting, and waiting, and waiting on approval, I decided to start modding my transport box. I bought this sterilite box from Wal-Mart for $17. It fits everything except the back half of the Gaffi. 
 

Even though the Tusken is an incredibly light costume, I still don’t want to actually CARRY it. This box has horrible wheels on it and no handle on the other side.

Those wheels are unusable.

I wish I could have found the 25 gallon husky for a decent price, but I haven’t seen them for sale in a while. That’s fine. So I’ll have to add casters and a handle. 
 

I went to a local junk store and picked up two used casters. I guess you can get similar at Harbor Freight. Unfortunately, these casters swivel and I don’t want them to. So my idea is to drill a hole through the spinny parts, put in a bolt, then epoxy the entire thing in place. 
 

Here is the hole. 

And here are the casters with small bolts put in those holes. 

 

Next I mixed up some golf epoxy resin. Perfect for metal that is going to have torque applied. Pick some up!

 

I coated the bolt in epoxy and pushed them back in. Then epoxied everywhere I could where metal touched metal. Finally, I covered it all in hot glue. That swivel will swivel no more. 

Here I am marking on the box where I want the caster to go. 

And here it is screwed in place. I had to make a special back plate of metal so the plastic won’t give away over time. I also just used washers when the other plate didn’t work. For the other side, I’m just going to cut a metal plate to size. 

 

I ran out of time and will have to finish it up tomorrow. Then on to the handle....

[JSmails]

Today I finished up the other wheel. 

Then I added an all PVC handle to the other side. This shouldn’t have taken as long as it did. 

And now this part is done and ready to roll. Next, I need to come up with a place to store 1/2 my Gaffi. I have an idea....

 

[JSmails]

Since I am making this an all-in-one solution, I needed a way to transport the Gaffi. It’s too long to fit inside the box. And too clunky too secure on the outside. So I went with indoor/outdoor:

 

I cut some holes to give the stick a way to be secure but also not have to carry it. I added padding to keep it from getting all scratched up. 

 

It just fits on top of everything else. 

Here it is being transported. 

I don’t think I have room for a mirror stand in the box, but it is surprisingly roomy. 
 

After all these mods, I’m going to try to find the husky 25 gallon if they still make it. It has a better handle and better wheels. Or I may keep adding to this one. Always more to do. 

[zv288bot]

Love your thread. Lots of great info with cool mods/solutions. Just as a affordable option for you, these are the totes I use. I have one for my TK that is coming on 5 years old (over 20 troops a year) I have had no wheel issues with it and I literally have taken it over gravel and grass several times. They also fit nicely in the back of my hatchback. I was so impressed by it that when it came time to explore options for my Tusken, I purchased 2 more. One for my tusken and one for my wife's jawa. Now, I will say, way over kill for a jawa but we match (LOL) More importantly my gaffi stick, which comes in two pieces as well fits in the box.

I think it's a great option, usually Wally world has them in stock and I know even Target carries them. Lastly, don't know why they went with a yellow lid on the new verison. Mine is back with a red handle. You can buy them in a set of 2 from walmart in black/red so it weird that you can't buy one in black/red. I do if I recall correctly Target has them in back and red if you prefer. Anyhow, great job on the build, hopefully you hear back soon on your approval.

Sterilite 40 Gallon Wheeled Tote Yellow - Walmart.com - Walmart.com 

[JSmails]

4 hours ago, zv288bot said:

Love your thread. Lots of great info with cool mods/solutions. Just as a affordable option for you, these are the totes I use. I have one for my TK that is coming on 5 years old (over 20 troops a year) I have had no wheel issues with it and I literally have taken it over gravel and grass several times. They also fit nicely in the back of my hatchback. I was so impressed by it that when it came time to explore options for my Tusken, I purchased 2 more. One for my tusken and one for my wife's jawa. Now, I will say, way over kill for a jawa but we match (LOL) More importantly my gaffi stick, which comes in two pieces as well fits in the box.

I think it's a great option, usually Wally world has them in stock and I know even Target carries them. Lastly, don't know why they went with a yellow lid on the new verison. Mine is back with a red handle. You can buy them in a set of 2 from walmart in black/red so it weird that you can't buy one in black/red. I do if I recall correctly Target has them in back and red if you prefer. Anyhow, great job on the build, hopefully you hear back soon on your approval.

Sterilite 40 Gallon Wheeled Tote Yellow - Walmart.com - Walmart.com 

Thanks for reading and the help!

Are those wheels on that box good enough to roll easily and not break? If that’s the case, for $20 it may be a better solution. I really like the big wheels on the husky totes, but I can’t fit the big one in my crawl space where I keep my costumes. The 25 gallon husky is nearly too big, but I can fit it in sideways. I’ll have to look at the measurements on that box you linked and check them vs. my puny crawl space door. 
 

As an add on, my Tusken was approved today! I am now a proud denizen. I have a few more improvements planned, but my daughter wants me to work on a Mandalorian Boba Fett for her over Christmas break which would be an entirely new project and take away from my Tusken time. 
 

[thebrighton]

I have a very similar trunk for transporting costumes to events. It has survived over 100 troops now and the original plastic wheels are still turning. The only thing that has happened is the tread has worn off. For the price it has far outlasted my expectations of it 

[zv288bot]

Agreed with Gareth. No issues with the wheels so far and I am not easy on that thing at all. Congrats on the approval! Welcome Welcome!

[JSmails]

9 minutes ago, zv288bot said:

Agreed with Gareth. No issues with the wheels so far and I am not easy on that thing at all. Congrats on the approval! Welcome Welcome!

Thanks!

I went to Target today and picked one up. If it’s too big, and it is really big, for my crawl space I’ll use it to organize my garage. 
 

It rolls really nice and now I wish I hadn’t spent HOURS modding that box. Lol. I’ll find a use for both I’m sure. 
 

BUT, if that box does fit in my crawl space, I may have to pick up a bunch for all the costumes I have, and am doing. 
 

It’s an awesome box at 1/3 the price of the Husky 50gallon. 

[JSmails]

I got the box from Target and tried it. It’s a GREAT box, but it’s just too big for my crawl space. I’ll find another use for it. But if anyone else is buying a box and has a little bigger storage area for costumes, this box has to be top of the list. Great suggestion. I wish it worked for me. 

[Motogpnut]

On 8/27/2020 at 12:23 AM, Nezhdanov said:

Welcome!

As a first kit up it looks pretty good but it will help to have better lighting and to be able to see all of you so we can see the length of your robe and how it all fits. Can’t really tell the outer robe material in the photo?

The breather looks like it sits well and seems a good length and bandoliers seem fine too.

From what I can see the outer robe looks like a good length to your wrists and is nice and loose which helps as the film robes were loose.

Also if you can take individual photos of boots, breather, gloves, arm wraps etc. just so we can see how they are, I’m sure they’ll be fine!

As for the helmet fan set up, I think you’re referring to fleasome who I’m sure did quite a comprehensive fan set up with some analysis of heat at different stages of a troop.

I’ve just gone for 2 3D printer fans with the wire coming out the back of the lid, under my neck seal, down the back under the outer robe into a usb power bank which is in a waist pouch hidden by the outer robe. It helps make it manageable but can depend on how much room you have in your lid, some have managed to fit a pc fan in the mouth area!

I don’t know about the Peter Diamond neck seal but we did a tk style neck seal which helps cover the chin and back of head in case anyone looks up but there are different ways people do neck seals.

Looking good and will be good to see more!


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Do you have a link or pic to the TK style neck seal with wraps? I would love to see what other people are doing.

[Motogpnut]

This was such a great build thread. @JSmailsthank you for this whole process. So much information. How did your review go? Specifically, what did they think about your inner inner skirt? I think you’re right on point with that look. 

[JSmails]

10 hours ago, Motogpnut said:

This was such a great build thread. @JSmailsthank you for this whole process. So much information. How did your review go? Specifically, what did they think about your inner inner skirt? I think you’re right on point with that look. 

Thanks so much! 
 

They didn’t even mention the inner skirt. The only extra pics I had to send was of the waist sash because it can’t be seen in normal suit up. They just wanted to make sure I had one. 
 

The pics further up are the pics I sent for approval. In the later pics, where I sewed the original material of the robe to the skirt, I did that for my own accuracy. I weathered it and never put up pics. Here’s the way my costume is now. 
 

 

That is a much better color match I feel. And without raising my hands above my head, you don’t really see it anyway. It’s more “for me” for accuracy-sake. 

After looking at pics thousands of times I believe the inner robe is just that: an inner “ROBE”. IMO, from the way it flows and the way they are dressed, it’s a giant bathrobe design. There is no “skirt”. The inner “skirt” is the side of the bathrobe that gets wrapped under the outer side of the bathrobe. 
 

If I knew how to design clothing, I could probably better explain it and design it correctly. I’m sure not having the “split” up the right side may drive me crazy eventually and I’ll have to make a more accurate inner robe. But until then, the inner skirt satisfies the “look” for me. 

[Motogpnut]

I actually understand what you’re saying. The inner robe would have to be a wrap around that’s big enough for the third wrap. And possibly the lower edge could be hemmed at an angle to show the inner “Skirt” which is only the same inner robe material. 
Well the way you’ve done it looks fantastic. Less material and less overheating works for me. Lol. Great build. The end result is great. It’s impressive. 

Edited January 17, 2021 by Motogpnut

[Nezhdanov]

Hi,

There was no link as such as my wife made up the pattern. It was essentially a material cylinder for round the neck and at one end there is material that covers your shoulders, some of the chest and some of the back. At the other end there is some material that tucks into the helmet that covers the chin and back of head. Attach some wraps and weathering as appropriate and when the robes go over everything is covered.


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[JSmails]

Bump for an update. 
 

In the past year I haven’t even taken my poor Tusken out of the box. I usually troop as Vader, and people, especially other troopers, always want Vader there. 
 

I hope I’ll be able to get out and troop my Tusken sometime in 2022. 
 

I’m still watching these threads to see if anyone comes up with the correct pattern for the inner robe that gives you the pleated/darted front AND the look of the “skirt” all in one garment. 
 

 

[goldie]

We are right now working on the CRL of this Tusken. It is in review at LMO at the moment. We hope it will be approved asap.

[Motogpnut]

Bump for an update. 
 
In the past year I haven’t even taken my poor Tusken out of the box. I usually troop as Vader, and people, especially other troopers, always want Vader there. 
 
I hope I’ll be able to get out and troop my Tusken sometime in 2022. 
 
I’m still watching these threads to see if anyone comes up with the correct pattern for the inner robe that gives you the pleated/darted front AND the look of the “skirt” all in one garment. 
 
 

August, I really think it’s a hakama. In a few shots behind the scenes it was worn on the outside. Even pulled up high for a couple pics. Then, I think, they decided it looked too structured for a desert sand people, and decided to wear it under. That’s what gives the skirt the full look under the inner robe.

The hakama is actually a big flowing pair of pants with 5 pleats in the front, 2 in the rear. 7 pleats in total for the 7 virtues of Bushido. The five pleats can be clearly seen in the photo of Peter Diamond standing over Luke.

Lucas was a huge fan of the old Japanese westerns by Akira Kurosawa. Typical Samurai garb included a Kimono, and a hakama. There are other parts of the traditional garb that could have been used as well. But knowing how fond Lucas was of those movies, I’m not surprised in the least.

My WIP is the one where I tried to match the Peter Diamond as close as possible. And hopefully the build the CRL will be approved from.

Your WIP was the way I was going to do the skirt and the pleats originally. You did such a great job with your build. There was so much info that helped my build. Just wanted to let you know that. Here and over on the SLD, you’re a great resource for new builders. Definitely appreciate your eye for detail, buddy

[JSmails]

On 1/31/2022 at 10:28 PM, Motogpnut said:

August, I really think it’s a hakama. In a few shots behind the scenes it was worn on the outside. Even pulled up high for a couple pics. Then, I think, they decided it looked too structured for a desert sand people, and decided to wear it under. That’s what gives the skirt the full look under the inner robe.

The hakama is actually a big flowing pair of pants with 5 pleats in the front, 2 in the rear. 7 pleats in total for the 7 virtues of Bushido. The five pleats can be clearly seen in the photo of Peter Diamond standing over Luke.

Lucas was a huge fan of the old Japanese westerns by Akira Kurosawa. Typical Samurai garb included a Kimono, and a hakama. There are other parts of the traditional garb that could have been used as well. But knowing how fond Lucas was of those movies, I’m not surprised in the least.

My WIP is the one where I tried to match the Peter Diamond as close as possible. And hopefully the build the CRL will be approved from.

Your WIP was the way I was going to do the skirt and the pleats originally. You did such a great job with your build. There was so much info that helped my build. Just wanted to let you know that. Here and over on the SLD, you’re a great resource for new builders. Definitely appreciate your eye for detail, buddy

Thanks!

 

I definitely try to read your WIP here. Did you ever get the hakama figured out? The only problem I have with that is the opening on the side, like a robe. 
 

This:

 

It’s clearly open and overlapping and the “line” gets eaten up at the belt. As I see it, it’s a giant robe where the wearer’s right side tucks under and they pull over the wearers left side. Like a giant bathrobe. With pleats. 

[Nezhdanov]

My personal take on the construction of the generic Tuskens in the film is there have been a few deliberate design choices made. We see variation in robe material, weapons and although the ANH Tuskens superficially look the same, there is quite a lot of variety even the head wraps are differently laid out. I feel these are conscious design decisions as the first film was a difficult project with numerous challenges. It would have been simpler to have one design and made them uniform like with stormtroopers but what we see in the film are four different Tuskens.

Another choice to me that would make sense is the designers focused a bit more on the Peter Diamond cliff fight costume, like giving him the waist bandolier, as the costume will get more screen time so will be a focal point and also will need to handle fight scenes. The other costumes were in the background somewhat so maybe a wrap around style robe was sufficient for one of them as they would not be in focus as much and the designers at the time probably could not foresee the scrutiny the costumes get from us 45 years later.

In the carry Luke scene, the difference in materials is clear with the look and hang of the robes being quite different. It is reasonable to guess there is variation in costume wrap, closing etc. as we see so much variation elsewhere.

I feel there is an element of making do in the generic Tusken costumes that would not appear much on film to meet filming schedules, budgets etc.

Of course I could be completely wrong but just my take!

That, for me, is the appeal of the ANH Tusken. Different members can approach the build in different ways and get a great looking costume at the end.

Anyway great build threads both[emoji1303]


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[Motogpnut]

The overlap is from the kimono style inner robe. You can see the upper part of the overlap between the bandoliers in almost all of the pictures of the Peter Diamond Tusken. The overlap at the bottom is also prevalent in a lot of the photos as well. This also falls in line with Lucas’s fascination with the Japanese western style samurai movies.






Here you see hakama over inner robe as is tradition. Granted it’s too high but they can’t make it obvious to everyone where they got the idea. So they tried it higher…



But I think it looked too uniform for Lucas’s taste. So they said to put the hakama under to give him more presence. Bigger, fuller.



As noted by your findings. This is actually the picture that lead me to the results I found.

[Motogpnut]

The hakama has 5 pleats in the front and two in the back. Three on the wearers left going right. Two on the wearers right going left.



Simple description of the hakama but if you delve deeper you’ll see why this character is a little more than what people think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakama

People have said that this can’t be right because LFL has stated in the costume books that the Bedouin tribes were the primary influence for the Tusken robes. I believe that’s true to some degree. But more with the two extras they grabbed to be the other two tuskens with Peter Diamond. (Obviously the cycler rifles are directly from them.)

But with Peter’s outfit they wanted more. And they wanted to make this character special. Which in my opinion they did. How long was this character on screen? I think I read somewhere that it was a little over two minutes? I think they did good. Especially since we’re still talking about it 45 years later.

This was before I weathered it.



This was after and underneath the kimono





It all clicked when I realized… Desert Samurai.

[Motogpnut]

Also, traditional kimonos overlap left to right. Forgot to mention that. Did a lot of reading about the traditional Japanese style clothing. Very cool concepts and ideals.