Tusken Shaman build thread/work in progress

[Shaman]

Just now, Mrrikki said:

Hi Lars

 

Both myself and Michael have reviewed this thread along with discussions with the rest of the LMO team. We feel from the images provided this is viable. It has helped having the 3D models and supplementary comics supporting the game images. It is important to note that with the game images alone this would have been a no.

 

I have also spoken with Jenn in regards to this and producing a draft crl. For reference please see https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CRLGuide especially the Character Approval and New to the legion costumes section.

 

I think there will be some challenges to over come with material choices and of course constructing that awesome helmet to look great and be robust enough for trooping.

 

Good luck, here if you need my view on anything, looks like you already have a great team of support behind you!

 

Cheers

 

Rikki

Hi Rikki! Thank you so much! I'm very excited to work on this, and this just made me even more eager to work on it and just make an awesome new addition to the Krayt Clan and the 501st as a whole! 

I am indeed having some challenges that I am facing with the materials, that I would like to have your opinion on. Namely I am a bit unsure about the material for the poncho (the big shoulder piece thing). Underrobes will be made out of monk's cloth (so the skirt and lower sleeves) and the tunic (the darker brown tunic with the left side flap as a whole) will be made out of pigskin leather. Now I am unsure as to what the poncho should be made out of, monk's cloth or pigskin leather and would like to hear your opinion on it.

Also, for the spikes at the back of the head, I think the look of them in the comic (which looks exactly like the concept art images) would be the best to stick to, as the in game model's spikes may not be too detailed. I would also like to hear your opinion on that. (I do think that, either way, the best way to make them would indeed be like how Jorge suggested above  )

[Mrrikki]

My natural thought is a poncho should be waterproof and leather makes sense, of course Star Wars and costumes does not always make sense, also it may not flow correctly so to achieve the look it may need to be died monkscloth. It is going to need to be samples and experiments I think. Happy to hear others views on this. I see this as a cooperative approach, yes if needs be I will make a decision but it would be good to talk it though.

Spikes yes foam is not great, as I said in my last post it needs to be robust so experiments will be required to get the right look and longevity form the material, it will be no good if after trooping a couple of times it looks terrible. Latex like a lekku could potentially work?


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[sylverbard]

"ponchos are waterproof" is terrestrial thinking on planets with , well, rain.

is it protective? eg in game is it armour?

is it ceremonial? eg is it clothing yiu can alter colors of as an player character?

is it quickly removed as a kneeling rug for meetings?

 

and, as a really NICE first to legion costume creator, is the fabric easily accessible around the globe?  

like, would the new hessian burlap be a good fit, that stuff makes new Jawa world wide for example, and " every member has access to it" should carry weight with LMO determination.

cuz sign me up.  i want one, idea what it is in game, but it's a tusken.

Edited March 13, 2020 by sylverbard

[Shaman]

I can kinda see the poncho being from leather or monk's cloth, also for in-universe reasons. I kinda imagine leather to be quite a rare resource for the Tuskens, so a high standing member such as a shaman (in the comic he (I assume a he?) acts as an important person) would likely dress in such garments, plus the tunic with flap seems to be leather already, and is currently being made from pigskin leather (which I assume isn't that hard to get a hold of in the real world)

On the other hand, I would also see the poncho being made from monk's cloth since the Tuskens use that a whole lot, and the female Tusken has her top part also made from that material if I'm correct. 

I would personally stick to either of these two fabrics to keep some consistency within the costume

 

Either way, it is currently being made from pigskin leather to see how that'd look, but I'm unsure when I can get a picture of it, due to me being a student dependent on public transport, and there kinda being an advise not to take that with the whole corona virus going on...

[Mrrikki]

Good point on the easily accessible it may end up being leather-like material as a description if this was the final choice. But for me the key element is to get the right look, so we need to strike a balance.

For me I am leaning towards a cloth material after watching lots of you tube videos!

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[Mrrikki]

On the hessian burlap that does look like a material that could work.




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[sylverbard]

On 3/12/2020 at 8:20 PM, Shaman said:

I can kinda see the poncho being from leather or monk's cloth, also for in-universe reasons. I kinda imagine leather to be quite a rare resource for the Tuskens, 

I dunno... Tusken's attack a lot of beings in the desert.  leather is just skin. . . . 

[Shaman]

I think for a fabric, I would pick monk's cloth over burlap though, both since I think it would look better with the rest, to have consitancy in fabrics and because in my own opinion, monk's cloth is not itchy/smelly, which I do find burlap to be...  ^^; 

this is the monk's cloth I am using:

Edited March 16, 2020 by Shaman

[Shaman]

On 3/14/2020 at 9:21 PM, sylverbard said:

I dunno... Tusken's attack a lot of beings in the desert.  leather is just skin. . . . 

Well, you could be right, but it's my main reasoning for which the regular tuskens wouldn't wear a lot of leather as well ^^; 

[Chrysamere]

On 3/11/2020 at 6:28 AM, Shaman said:

 

 

You don't have him G13 yet? Where is your dedication??

[Shaman]

Sooo I've been trying some things out regarding the poncho, and had it made from leather as a first try. Looking to get some opinions! The leather still needs to be dyed though, but this is more of a test fitting of how the parts feel. I am already happy with the scarfs though  Main thing is going to be if this leather poncho will be the one, or if I will have to make one out of monk's cloth

 

[angelrose13]

I’m enjoying watching this come together!

The leather does look nice, but I’m wondering if monks cloth would be better now? [emoji848] I know at first I did think pigskin leather would fit. But seeing it makes me second guess.


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[Shaman]

46 minutes ago, angelrose13 said:

I’m enjoying watching this come together!

The leather does look nice, but I’m wondering if monks cloth would be better now? I know at first I did think pigskin leather would fit. But seeing it makes me second guess.

Thank you!

I think it works really well for the tunic, but for the poncho I'm thinking that it would be better to use monk's cloth. I think it would just be better fitting, especially on/over the shoulders, so what I'm thinking is keeping the tunic pigskin leather (which I still need to dye), but making the poncho monk's cloth. What'd be your opinion on that?

[angelrose13]

I think that could work. But it will depend on how everything fits and lays.


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[Gruntsky]

I like the look of the pigskin, but the scarves look a bit bunchy to me compared to the reference shots.

[Shaman]

5 hours ago, Gruntsky said:

I like the look of the pigskin, but the scarves look a bit bunchy to me compared to the reference shots.

When you look at the game images, there is quite a bulk of scarves actually, especially once you look at how thick they are around the neck. I think it'll look better once I got the helmet on, but luckily they're made in such a way that it's relatively easy to add/substract bulkiness

[Gruntsky]

3 hours ago, Shaman said:

When you look at the game images, there is quite a bulk of scarves actually, especially once you look at how thick they are around the neck. I think it'll look better once I got the helmet on, but luckily they're made in such a way that it's relatively easy to add/substract bulkiness

One of the problems with going off game models and comics! Having made a comic accurate A'Sharad Hett, I know the struggles  

[Shaman]

Hey all again, hope everyone is doing well under current conditions...

I would like to ask your opinions on 2 things. The first being the tusks in the front pouch (green arrow): how would these be best attached? by having 2 slits in the pouch and have the set of tusks attached on the inside, or have it be attached similarly to a female Tusken's boar tusks on the pouch? I am already using a similar way of crafting the pouches to a female Tusken's pouch, in using the same stitching (if that is the right English word for it lol), see below. 

 

This is going to be the side pouch, but still needs to be made attachable to the pouch and needs the breather added among some other things.

The second thing I would like your opinion on, would be the dark brown stripes (orange arrow). Are these sort of big "stiches", strips of leather/fabric attached to it, painted stripes, etc? What would work best?

 

The helmet itself is also being worked on, by a very talented friend of mine:

[angelrose13]

For the pouch I would see about possibly attaching the tusks directly onto it. This would give them stability and hopefully ensure they don’t fall off.

As for the markings, it looks like paint may work. Stitching could work. Maybe take a small piece of fabric and experiment?


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[Mrrikki]

Hi

I got your pm thanks, responding in here to keep everything in one place. I have not been as active on the forum as I’d like due to real life and the impacts of Coronavirus at work.

I am still monitoring this thread though and you are in great hands with Jenn, we are both regularly talking and working together.

Look forward to seeing you experiments with the stitching / markings.

Cheers

Rikki


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[M.J.]

HI ya Lars,

Its a challenge making a Gaming costume, I've made Halo, Destiny and Anime characters so its not an easy thing, giving another level of difficulty if your the first. 

Fabrics..I see your using Pig skin .. its thin not as thick as you would like, If you like the colour add another layer to give it thickens add vinyl?

Monks cloth if you can steer away from it do so, same goes with the Hessian. Look into Upholstery its thick and will give the flare out.

The brown  dress top layer I would look into wool. 

Those lines in the brown you could sew or fabric paint. Or add another fabric on top not just stitching.

My cards are on fabric paint, you can even do the edges.

[PunkRocketScience]

Nudged the guy who is working on the 3D print model and got him rolling again.  He's got a little bit of progress...

 

[Shaman]

On 18-4-2020 at 8:34 AM, M.J. said:

HI ya Lars,

Its a challenge making a Gaming costume, I've made Halo, Destiny and Anime characters so its not an easy thing, giving another level of difficulty if your the first. 

Fabrics..I see your using Pig skin .. its thin not as thick as you would like, If you like the colour add another layer to give it thickens add vinyl?

Monks cloth if you can steer away from it do so, same goes with the Hessian. Look into Upholstery its thick and will give the flare out.

The brown  dress top layer I would look into wool. 

Those lines in the brown you could sew or fabric paint. Or add another fabric on top not just stitching.

My cards are on fabric paint, you can even do the edges.

Hey! Sorry for the very late reply, have been very busy with my studies and the whole covid thing isn't really helping as well...

For the tunic I'm thinking of sticking with the pigskin, but the poncho thing I'm a bit unsure about now.

I like the looks of the leather, but I think monk's cloth would also work as I still have enough left from the inner robes, so I personally think it's between the current leather one and one in monk's cloth.

As for the stripe/stitch things, I have to dye the entire leather thing to get a closer matching color  as it now still looks very light in color. So I could try dyeing those stripes.

 

I still really love this costume a lot, but I just haven't been able to work on it much lately. ^_^;

[Shaman]

On 13-11-2020 at 10:03 PM, PunkRocketScience said:

Nudged the guy who is working on the 3D print model and got him rolling again.  He's got a little bit of progress...

 

Ah that's cool to see! Would love to see what the end product will be!

[PunkRocketScience]

9 hours ago, Shaman said:

Ah that's cool to see! Would love to see what the end product will be!

Yeah...  About time to give him another nudge...  Hate to be a pest with how things are going in the world these days...