Nezhdanov Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Hi, These will likely be well known by now but I thought it helpful to have them in one place. These will be film, behind the scenes and documentary images. Some of the quality is not great and I’ve cropped some images to highlight certain areas. I have uploaded the images as small in tapatalk so can show better images if needed. Something we see from these images is the variation in colour of the images. Some are bright yellow or orange, others are more subdued and the black and white can show more detail. The variation in colouring of the images mean copying colours to dye these costumes is a little tricky as what is the real colour? Some logic, judgment, your own testing or further research maybe needed but the crl has some suggestions as well. The later tv Tuskens have respective image dumps in their sections so I have just visited the older Tusken costumes to give them the same. I have also broken down the ANH Tusken head elements by using two heads from collectors and reproductions which can be found here https://www.kraytclan.com/forum/topic/8565-reference-supporting-info-from-collectors-and-reproductions/#comment-86432 I’ll start with the Ralph McQuarrie concept image as he was commissioned by Lucas to effectively show what he was trying to convey to others about the first film. The inspiration was the Bedouin who are are tribe from the desert regions of North Africa.A bit about the background of the ANH Tusken and the image below. The Paul Duncan book ‘The Star Wars Archives episodes IV - VI 1977 - 1983’ has for this image “Tusken Raiders” by Ralph McQuarrie (December 7, 1975). Lucas: “I wanted the Tusken Raiders to be sort of like Bedouins, but at the same time very strange and mechanical. You look at that painting and you say, ‘Oh, yeah, Bedouin.’ Then you look again and say, ‘Wait a minute, that’s not right…’”In the Brandon Alinger book ‘Star Wars Costumes The Original Trilogy’, which has a foreword by John Mollo who received an Oscar for best costume design for Star Wars in 1978. This book also covers the ANH Tuskens in some depth with Insights of the back story and explanation McQuarrie has given the character. The book mentions, in keeping with the warlike people, vintage bandoliers were strapped over the chest and around the waist. The earth-toned, textured garments were then layered to protect them from the harsh Tatooine sandstorms. “The rest of it was Arab robes, really,” Mollo said of the layered robes, which were pulled out of stock at Bermans. The Nathans costumier label in one Tusken Raider cloak identified it as part of the firm’s rental stock for decades, if not longer.In the book, John Mollo explains in his forward that he went to Berman and Nathans for everything except hardware, the helmets, and armour.These book references and their descriptions may or may not be reliable so just take it as supporting information to the history of the costume or simply disregard entirely. Then some Peter Diamond images showing all the head elements, breather, bandoliers, sleeve join on the outer robe, gaffi and how much material there is for this costume and how loose the robes are There’s a lot of mouth folds. These can be difficult to recreate so thin leather or something that looks like leather such as vinyl is thin enough to make this work quite well. A glue that sets quickly will help you hold the folds as you glue or better still get some help so one person glued and another holds the folds in shape until it sets I’m not sure how well a single sleeve join like this will hold the weight of the outer robe together and not pop apart while trooping so if you want to try this method some testing may be needed. A good view of the gloves Here the image colour is quite different Here Peter Diamond is crouching a little but there is enough material on the inner robe to create many folds seen below the custom waist bandolier Of course Peter wasn’t the only ANH Tusken so here are some group images. Again there is nothing tight or restrictive about the inner or outer robes and there is a lot of material on show. There are various gaffi, bandoliers, head wrap patterns, outer robe types, greeblie placement, breathers, mouth folds, leather wrap sizes and the heads are quite different when seen together Here we see some of the other Tusken version and again there is a lot of material and it is loose and not restrictive Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
F943 Posted February 1, 2025 Posted February 1, 2025 Bit of useless information for anyone that didn't know but the Gaffi stick Luke is holding is the same one Peter Diamond uses to attack him. It's shorter because it broke while they were filming the scene. You can see Peter holding the shorter one also in the photos above. 1 Quote
Sandermac Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 Maybe it's time to write into CRL "... nose slots are asymmetrical" ? or "... the width of the slots on the nose can't be the same" What do you think about it? Quote
Nezhdanov Posted February 2, 2025 Author Posted February 2, 2025 The nose slots could be put forward to be written in to the ANH cliff attack crl but not the more generic ANH crl. Although there would be nothing stopping someone re-creating the Peter Diamond nose for a generic ANH Tusken [emoji4]I admit that when I began to put this reference collection together, and the other ones for different Tuskens, my aim was not necessarily to alter crls but to provide our members with a source of information to aid in creating better costume building if needed/wanted versus just seeing what others have made online.The main problem I have with information (especially when taken from the internet) is how verifiable it is especially when the costumes were created so long ago.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Sandermac Posted February 2, 2025 Posted February 2, 2025 In CRL Cliff Attack as standard just the same gaffi and in general CRL ANH I recommend level II. We strive to reproduce as faithfully as possible what is in the film/screenshots, don't we? Quote
Nezhdanov Posted February 2, 2025 Author Posted February 2, 2025 In CRL Cliff Attack as standard just the same gaffi and in general CRL ANH I recommend level II. We strive to reproduce as faithfully as possible what is in the film/screenshots, don't we?In theory that is what every member, gml and garrison should be doing.However, in practice what is deemed accurate to a high standard and accurate to a basic level varies from person to person, gml to gml and garrison to garrison. GML’s and garrison’s ultimately have the say on what will be cleared in their part of the world. We are happy to support.If we were to write a crl and explicitly detail every aspect of a costume, what can happen and sometimes does happen is people become fixated with what the crl text does or does not say. Loopholes are sought and found which can result in confusion or variation from what the crl texts original intention was.People can also become fixated on making a costume to look like the images in the crl. Crl images are usually the first person to build that costume. Costume understanding evolves over time with many builders discovering new things or different more effective approaches. We are fortunate with our members demonstrating many really innovative ways to approach costumes on this forum so others can learn from.All of the above exposition is somewhat redundant as at the top of each crl in red text is the following:- This document is not intended to be a detailed how-to on costume construction; rather a visual guide to be used for 501st costume approval. Details on construction may be found on the respective costume detachment web forum.- GMLs uncertain about an aspect of submitted costume shall post questions in the appropriate DL/GML peer review section of the Legion forum.- Measurements given in this document are intended to be approximate and generalized; not criteria for approval.- Requirements for all 501st costumes are proportional to the wearer in scale, fit and size.- Text descriptions are only one part of the guideline. GMLs and costumers must consider both text and pictures (CRL and Reference) when reviewing the costume.So essentially, crls are a guide and references are mentioned for gmls and costumers to consider.Hence all the reference materials in this and other threads and why we help those building costumes and GML’s with queries, advising on known issues of costs, material availability in various parts of the world and why I always recommend using the source/reference materials primarily and crls as helpful guides.Finally, the cliff attack crl was a little before I joined as staff so I don’t want to comment on work that was not my own. However, the crls I have been involved in writing since then (for better or for worse) are a bit more detailed.No crl is going to be perfect for a global audience but we try to allow our wonderful members build costumes in a way that suits them and their budgets which we are fortunate to have on our forums [emoji4]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
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