CRL Update - ANH Tusken Tab

[TrooperPX]

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[TrooperPX]

On 11/24/2021 at 4:47 AM, thebrighton said:

... note the Bantha Rider CRL has now disappeared and version one and two under Tusken Raider are identical other than the model. You don't need both as they both explain the difference between Raider and Bantha Rider in the bandolier section.

 

This is how the Legion does CRL tabs.  The text describes all options and the tabs show the example of differences.  Both tabs need to exist to demonstrate the wear options/variations for a single approved costume. 

Please refer to the Imperial Gunner as an example for CRL tabs at their extreme:

https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:IG_imperial_gunner#Version One

 

On 11/24/2021 at 4:47 AM, thebrighton said:

... version 2 should be the Peter Diamond "Luke attack" costume.

The Peter Diamond version will be its own CRL because it is a "character", and has specific fabric and detail requirements.

 

[TrooperPX]

(Place holder for inner robe/skirt explanation.) 

[thebrighton]

4 hours ago, TrooperPX said:

This is how the Legion does CRL tabs.  The text describes all options and the tabs show the example of differences.  Both tabs need to exist to demonstrate the wear options/variations for a single approved costume. 

Yep, I know how they work but it is not obvious with the Tusken CRL as there is no explanation. As you highlighted the Imperial Gunner I'll use that as an example. Under context it explains the various versions so you know which each refers to. If there is not going to be a separate Bantha Rider CRL just a single line explaining why there are 2 versions would clarify things.

Still not sure why there was a separate CRL for the Bantha Rider which was then removed.

[TrooperPX]

On 11/5/2021 at 7:45 AM, thebrighton said:

I have members currently building Tuskens and they are confused over the CRL as mentioned a couple of posts up and I note a GML also asking for clarification over on 501st. The proposed changes were excellent but the CRL has not been correctly updated and is causing more confusion than the previous version.

Can someone please have a look at it and tidy it up.

Please remind members and GMLs there is a six-month grace period where costumes can be approved under the previous CRL.

 

[FencingVetteTrooper]

Any update on the skirt/inner robe discussion?  Just had a squad mate submit a stellar ANH Tusken, however, was not approved because the CRL states that the inner robe/skirt is a required element.  Looking back at this thread, I see where mention was made that it was going to be optional for the regular Tusken, but mandatory for the Peter Diamond version (of which there is no CRL yet).  If that is the case, any way to update the published CRL to have that element under the Optional section (like the pants)?

If not, is there a still accessible copy of the previous CRL that our GML can actually access so that he might be able to then approve under this 6 month grace period?  He goes by what is published out there on the 501st CRL Library, and that currently shows the skirt as required.

Thanks!

Gary

[Nezhdanov]

Hi, I’m just a fellow member so don’t know anything official. There was this link on the forum which should show the alterations...

https://www.kraytclan.net/forum/topic/8014-crl-update-anh-tusken-tab/?_fromLogin=1

There is a disclaimer at the top of the thread linked above that states “This CRL has been updated (08/22/2012). GML's will have a six month grace period to approve members under the former CRL, to accommodate those with builds in progress”.

I think the date was meant to be 2021 not 2012 as the crl was recently updated. If this is the case then the skirt rejection should fall under the 6 month grace or period mentioned 2 posts up?

The skirt / Peter Diamond thing may pose a issue after the 6 month period though so hopefully will be clarified by then.

Hope that helps? [emoji1303]


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[Nezhdanov]

Just wondering, now there has been an announcement of a separate Peter Diamond crl, can the ‘under robe / under skirt’ be removed from the ANH Tusken crl?

The discussions for the ANH crl update seemed to suggest the skirt was only applicable if you were doing a Peter Diamond version, where the crl at the moment seems to make it a requirement for everyone wanting to make a generic ANH Tusken?

It would save potential new members adding more material to their generic ANH Tusken which would add to the overall cost, challenge of wearing an additional layer etc.

The Peter Diamond head has a visible lip on the splitters and the eye stalks are rotated but these have a ‘may be’ in the crl so it would seem a little strange to enforce the skirt?

I think the crl was updated in August so come March 1st we would be telling every new ANH Tusken builder they have to have an underskirt even for generic ANH Tusken. Is that the intention?


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[TrooperPX]

On 12/21/2021 at 5:36 PM, FencingVetteTrooper said:

Any update on the skirt/inner robe discussion?  Just had a squad mate submit a stellar ANH Tusken, however, was not approved because the CRL states that the inner robe/skirt is a required element.  Looking back at this thread, I see where mention was made that it was going to be optional for the regular Tusken, but mandatory for the Peter Diamond version (of which there is no CRL yet).  If that is the case, any way to update the published CRL to have that element under the Optional section (like the pants)?

The "Under Robe or Skirt" will be removed from the ANH Tusken CRL.  It was thought the Tuskens carrying Luke past the Landspeeder had this third layer, but it happened to only be PD.

[TrooperPX]

On 11/27/2021 at 12:37 PM, thebrighton said:

Still not sure why there was a separate CRL for the Bantha Rider which was then removed.

For more than a decade, membership wanted a separate "Bantha Rider" CRL as promoted by the RL, which did not have an inner robe.  The only justification was for the costume to be cheaper make.  With the new 4K image captures, we were finally able to prove there was nothing different about the costume build, but how it was worn.  It has taken time to remove it as a separate CRL, and the Legion required it to be a version tab so a full-length reference image would be available as the first thing you see.

[thebrighton]

1 hour ago, TrooperPX said:

For more than a decade, membership wanted a separate "Bantha Rider" CRL as promoted by the RL, which did not have an inner robe.  The only justification was for the costume to be cheaper make.  With the new 4K image captures, we were finally able to prove there was nothing different about the costume build, but how it was worn.  It has taken time to remove it as a separate CRL, and the Legion required it to be a version tab so a full-length reference image would be available as the first thing you see.

IIRC it's been a second tab for ages but when you were having a play with the CRL's a few months back a separate Bantha CRL appeared for a while then reverted back to a tab. That's all I was pondering.

[TrooperPX]

16 hours ago, thebrighton said:

IIRC it's been a second tab for ages but when you were having a play with the CRL's a few months back a separate Bantha CRL appeared for a while then reverted back to a tab. That's all I was pondering.

A draft CRL was created on the forums to show the Legion the costume build was identical.  If something appeared in the Legion Database, that would be a coding hiccup on their end.

[Nezhdanov]

[Edit - moved from wrong thread]

It would be helpful if the Outer Robe section of the ANH CRL actually had some content on the end of the link ‘See fabric discussion link for fabric examples. https://www.kraytclan.net/forum/topic/8120-fabric-resources-for-tuskens/‘

As the link has a thread date of August 22 2021, it suggests that it has been too difficult a task to put any content on in 8 months for a detachment dedicated for these particular costumes.

It might also suggest to those struggling to find suitable outer robe material that the detachment is not that interested in providing solutions to this often difficult aspect of the build. Members can suggest outer robe material but at the end of the day, this can be varied and not always helpful and yes I include myself in that as I only know so much.

A link on the crl gives the hope of more substantial support for an often difficult and expensive part of the build so to be greeted with nothing after so long might mean people look elsewhere for answers.

I’m not having a dig at volunteers which we all are but a new Tusken crl has gone live and new Tusken crls are being developed in that time.


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