TrooperPX Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) This CRL has been updated (08/22/2021). GML's will have a six month grace period to approve members under the former CRL, to accommodate those with builds in progress. CRL Update - ANH Tusken Tab Modified and/or Removed Changes and/or Additions This is the (primary version) for the ANH Tusken. It is the same costume as the Bantha Rider, with the bandoliers worn underneath the outer robe). Therefore it will remain a "Version One" tab in the ANH Tusken Raider CRL. Tusken Raider Version One Model DZ-8559 DZ 12109, Photo by M.Cullen J.Lim S.Ofner Hawk Worley Description: Tusken Raider Prefix: DZ Detachment: Krayt Clan Context: Episode IV: A New Hope Fearsome desert savages inhabiting the rocky Jundland Wastes, Tusken Raiders are the foremost reason Tatooine colonists do not wander far from their isolated communities. Extremely territorial and xenophobic, Tusken Raiders will attack with very little provocation. They show no allegiance to even their native world-mates, as these nomads have attacked Jawa scouting parties on occasion. Covered from head-to-foot in tattered rags and robes, Tusken Raiders — or Sand People as they are also known -- brandish a deadly bladed club known as a gaderffii. They also carry projectile rifles with which to shoot at passing vehicles. In this period, both male and female Tuskens dress identically. Please note that this costume is also eligible for membership in The Rebel Legion, although adjustments may need to be made for RL approval. This Visual Guide has been reviewed by the detachment staff and the LMO team and is certified for use as a minimum approval guideline for GMLs. GMLs are free to approve this costume type. This document is not intended to be a detailed how-to on costume construction; rather a visual guide to be used for 501st costume approval. Details on construction may be found on the respective costume detachment web forum. GMLs uncertain about an aspect of submitted costume shall post questions in the appropriate DL/GML peer review section of the Legion forum. Measurements given in this document are intended to be approximate and generalized; not criteria for approval. Requirements for all 501st costumes are proportional to the wearer in scale, fit and size. Text descriptions are only one part of the guideline. GML’s and costumers must consider both text and pictures (CRL and Reference) when reviewing the costume. Required Costume Components The following costume components are present and appear as described below. Helmet / Mask A fully wrapped head of similar design matching Episode 4. Unmodified commercially available latex masks are inaccurate. Masks built on a latex base are acceptable. Cloth wrapping is used for the main part of the head. All wraps are of the same color and made from duck cloth or bull denim. Head wraps are not unkempt and do not hang loosely over the neck or shoulders. Leather or simulated leather is used for the "snout" wrapping. Snout wrapping must be accurate to the references. Tucked mouth area is not uniformly "pleated" and must be accurate to the references. Mask has nine metal or simulated metal detail pieces: Silver in color. Two (2) eye stalks. Eye stalks taper toward the front with two slots cut into the underside of each piece. Eye stalks may be rotated so the slots are approximately 45-degrees to the outside. Four (4) head spikes. Head spikes have a slight taper. Two (2) "blood splitter" cheek tusks. Cheek tusks have a slight taper, a narrower end section, with hole in the end. Cheek tusks may have a raised lip around the end. One (1) nose piece. Nose piece has a flat bottom, curved top, with two vertical slots in the end. Screening or tinted lenses are used to conceal eyes and mouth from outside of mask. The finished mask is weathered and dirty. If the mask is not sufficiently long to conceal the neck at all times a neck seal of similar fabric to the wraps of the helmet, arms and boots is worn. The neck seal can be a thin "scarf" of fabric, but is not thick and bulky as is seen on prequel Tuskens. Neck Breather Device worn around the neck of a design similar to that seen in Episode 4. Neck Breather resembles a small cylinder 3" to 4" ( 7.62cm - 10.16cm) in length, approximately approximately 2" (5.08 cm) in diameter, with tapered caps on either end connecting to a tube, which runs behind the neck. Breather has knurled end caps and flare nuts on each end. Some One references shows a single small ridge (approximately 1/4" (0.635 cms) wide and 1/8" (0.3175cms) high) running around underneath the center equator of the cylinder. This ridge detail is acceptable but not required. Cylinder is wrapped in leather or leather like material. The overlapping end seam of the leather wrap is may be visible on the front of the breather with the lip facing upwards. Neck tube should be approximately 1/4" (6mm) in diameter. The tube should start is bend to the back immediately after coming out of the ends. Inner Robe Inner Robe is made of a textured, sand-colored fabric. The length of the robe does not expose the top of the boot. Inner robe should reach to approximately the instep of the boots or slightly above it. This loose-fitting inner robe is worn underneath the bandolier(s). Robes and mask conceal all skin around neck. Loose sleeves cover to approximately 4" (10.16 cms) above the wrist. The finished robe is weathered. Weathering is be realistic. Some fraying at the hem, but does not have long loose threads or appear unkempt. There is a stitched hem at the bottom, approximately 1.25" (3cm). Dust and dirt where is it would happen naturally, but does not resemble grease marks or staining from wetness. Outer Robe Outer Robe is very loose fitting and made of a coarse textured, and weathered, sand colored fabric. Basket weave fabric, such as Monk's cloth or similar is recommended. See fabric discussion link for fabric examples. Http://... Robe is constructed similar to a poncho. A rectangular piece of fabric draped over the shoulders, with a center front opening from the neck to the hem. Outer Robe reaches to at least the bottom of the inner robe. Outer Robe is as wide as the wearers arms, stopping at the wrist. Outer robe is sewn up the sides to just below the wrist. The sides may be sewn up to approximately 12" (35cm) from the wrist, with two medium-sized hook-and-eye or snap closures, the first at the wrist with the second half way down the opening, to keep the robe sleeve closed. There are no seams at the shoulders, but a single seam up the middle of the back is acceptable to make a wide enough piece of fabric. There is one reference showing seams at the shoulders, but seams on the shoulders are to be avoided if possible. There may be a single seam up the middle of the back, or seams down the outsides of the arms, but not both. The finished robe is weathered. Weathering is realistic. Some fraying at the hem, but does not have long loose threads or appear unkempt. Dust and dirt where is would happen naturally, but does not resemble grease marks or staining from wetness. Bandoliers Three bandoliers are worn. Two across the chest and one around the waist. Bandoliers are of British 1903 pattern, Martini Henry, Turkish Ottoman or similar recreations, and matching the style in the movie. Note: Swedish bandoliers are only allowed for original trilogy prequel Tusken Raiders as waist bandoliers only, but are discouraged as they are not screen accurate for this costume. Custom made waist bandoliers in the style of the Tusken in the cliff flight scene are acceptable. Extension straps may be needed for the bandoliers in order for them to hang low enough. Chest bandoliers are not be tight up under the armpit area. Bandoliers are weathered. Bandoliers Version One: Bandoliers are worn over the inner robe and under the outer robe. At least one (1) bandolier is worn across the chest or around the waist. Bandoliers Version Two (Bantha Rider): Bandoliers are worn over the outer robe. Two or three bandoliers are worn over the outer robe, with at least one across the chest and one around the waist and one or two crossing the chest. Gloves Weathered, sand-colored cloth or leather gloves. Arm Wraps Weathered, sand-colored cloth wrappings start at the wrist, above the palm. No wraps are around the hand / palm. Wraps conceal the cuffs of the gloves and all skin on the arms. The wraps continue up the arm until concealed within robes. Waist Sash Waist Sash is made of a similar fabric to the inner robe. Waist Sash is 5" to 7" (13-18cm) in width. consists of a 6" to 7” ( 15.24 cms- 17.78 cms) girth belt that ties in the back. The sash is may be laced closed / together. No fraying and no excess hangs from the knotting or attachment. The sash is worn over the inner robe, and under any waist bandolier. Footwear Boots or shoes, covered with cloth wrappings. Wraps are the same color and fabric as the mask and arms. Wraps are weathered. Wrappings continue up the leg until concealed within the robes. Wraps conceal all skin on the legs. Optional Accessories Items below are optional costume accessories. These items are not required for approval, but if present appear as described below. If adding in an accessory after initial approval, the item still needs to be submitted to local GML for approval before use. Gaderffii (gaffi stick) The Gaffi Stick is of similar design to the styles (pineapple, gunstock, or mace head) used in Episode 4. Rifle The Sniper Rifle is of similar design to the styles used in Episode 4. Pants To prevent any leg above the boot from being exposed (such as when moving or kneeling), tan or brown pants are worn. A similar fabric to that of the robes or arm wraps is recommended. The pants are weathered and dirty. Edited January 10, 2022 by TrooperPX Quote
TrooperPX Posted March 14, 2021 Author Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Image references to support changes: http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l515/MarsVoyager/TuskenID_Respirators_MarsVoyager_2015-02-14_zps0248385e.jpg http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u178/tk0580/star%20wars/SW_vis_dict_pg54.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/greensquire/SW%20Pics/SW%20Screenshots/ThirdRobe002.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/greensquire/SW%20Pics/SW%20Screenshots/ThirdRobe004.jpg Tusken Raiders: Meet Tatooine's Menacing Desert Dwellers | StarWars.com Edited May 12, 2021 by TrooperPX Quote
Motogpnut Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Very, very nice!! That’s how the Peter Diamond is laid out. Very good description. I especially like the seams part that allows shoulders or a back seam, but not both. Exactly right. The only thing I would change is the hook and loop closure below the wrists. This could be a snap closure as well. I think either is a possibility and should be mentioned, as to not limit the builder. Or even just mention “a type of closure.” My current build matches this description, including the wrist closure. I can provide more detailed photos of exterior robe material as well. Unweathered at this point but very close to the Tufted terry clothe of the Peter Diamond Tusken. Is this for that character, or is this for a generalized Tusken? I did see you have another title that references the “Luke attack” or “Cliff attack” IE Peter Diamond. This CRL also matches that characters build details. Quote
Astela Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Great changes! I love them I agree with Motogpnut - snaps will be better. Hook and loop will constantly open due to movement. Quote
Nezhdanov Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread so please remove the other post!Good to see some movement on this and the corrections that members have been talking about. Not to be critical but the underskirt text part displays for me as a single letter column which is a bit tricky to read [emoji4]As I understand it, the descriptions are for generic Tuskens as if you were to make a Peter Diamond costume you would have to copy his head wraps and everything else exactly as you see it.For me it might be helpful for some clarification on some of the descriptions that seem to have the Peter Diamond cliff fight character referenced such as the underskirt and hook fastening on the outer robe. Will this be all ANH Tuskens will have to be like this, can be like this or if you are making a Peter Diamond specific build then this is how it is? It is not easy to tell if the other two Tuskens seen in the film have the hook fastening and underskirt or just Peter Diamond.With the outer robe material discussion link I would like a bit more of an understanding of what this is and how it would work.Will there be a tidied up thread of previous discussions made into something more official or will it be just an ongoing thread that could contain any contribution?In the past some outer robe material has had a manufacturer name mentioned in a thread but does that make it official and good for clearance? Or if a material is mentioned in the discussion by a member will it be vetted to say that’s good or not good for clearance?The outer robe material is a tricky area and clear direction over something vague would be preferable [emoji1303]With the breather I have always been a little confused with ‘The overlapping end seam of the leather wrap may be visible on the front of the breather with the lip facing upwards’.Using Peter Diamond again to me that seems like his breather leather upside down? I might have the wrong idea but the overlap faces down?Thanks [emoji1303]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
TrooperPX Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Motogpnut said: The only thing I would change is the hook and loop closure below the wrists. This could be a snap closure as well. I think either is a possibility and should be mentioned, as to not limit the builder. Or even just mention “a type of closure.” Is this for that character, or is this for a generalized Tusken? I did see you have another title that references the “Luke attack” or “Cliff attack” IE Peter Diamond. This CRL also matches that characters build details. Good catch. Closure options updated. This CRL is for a generic Tusken. Peter Diamond's costume is the most comprehensive as far as documentable details, so it must be the foundation. Any details that seem to be specific to his costume, but cannot be 100% confirmed to be on all Tuskens, will be listed in this CRL as a "may" option. Peter Diamond's specific Tusken character will have these details listed as "must". 1 Quote
Motogpnut Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, TrooperPX said: Good catch. Closure options updated. This CRL is for a generic Tusken. Peter Diamond's costume is the most comprehensive as far as documentable details, so it must be the foundation. Any details that seem to be specific to his costume, but cannot be 100% confirmed to be on all Tuskens, will be listed in this CRL as a "may" option. Peter Diamond's specific Tusken character will have these details listed as "must". This is fantastic. I’m so happy to see this happening. Thank you so much for your work on this. I really think this will help the new builder looking for direction and will be a lot less confusing. Quote
TrooperPX Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Nezhdanov said: Not to be critical but the underskirt text part displays for me as a single letter column which is a bit tricky to read. As I understand it, the descriptions are for generic Tuskens as if you were to make a Peter Diamond costume you would have to copy his head wraps and everything else exactly as you see it. For me it might be helpful for some clarification on some of the descriptions that seem to have the Peter Diamond cliff fight character referenced such as the underskirt and hook fastening on the outer robe. Will this be all ANH Tuskens will have to be like this, can be like this or if you are making a Peter Diamond specific build then this is how it is? It is not easy to tell if the other two Tuskens seen in the film have the hook fastening and underskirt or just Peter Diamond. With the outer robe material discussion link I would like a bit more of an understanding of what this is and how it would work. Will there be a tidied up thread of previous discussions made into something more official or will it be just an ongoing thread that could contain any contribution? In the past some outer robe material has had a manufacturer name mentioned in a thread but does that make it official and good for clearance? Or if a material is mentioned in the discussion by a member will it be vetted to say that’s good or not good for clearance? The outer robe material is a tricky area and clear direction over something vague would be preferable. With the breather I have always been a little confused with ‘The overlapping end seam of the leather wrap may be visible on the front of the breather with the lip facing upwards’. Using Peter Diamond again to me that seems like his breather leather upside down? I might have the wrong idea but the overlap faces down? Good catch. The breather detail has been updated. You may need to view this from a real computer. Phones don't know how to display cell formatting that is wider than their display. This CRL is for a generic Tusken. Peter Diamond's costume is the most comprehensive as far as documentable details, so it must be the foundation. Any details that seem to be specific to his costume, but cannot be 100% confirmed to be on all Tuskens, will be listed in this CRL as a "may" option. Peter Diamond's specific Tusken character will have these details listed as "must". The images we have do suggest that all of the Tuskens had an under skirt. It may actually be a full under robe, but we have no evidence of that. So the under skirt will be a new required item. From a costume designers perspective, all of the outer robes would have had a similar design to the sleeve closures. While we cannot clearly see how each Tusken's sleeves are closed, we are going to infer that is the case. This is the "tidied up" for discussing this specific CRL. The thread "Updating the ANH Tusken CRL" will remain as an archive of the initial conversation and any contributions. However, thoughts on finetuning this specific CRL will happen here. We will be creating a "Fabric Discussion" thread that can be viewed by members and GMLs. This will offer a variety of acceptable fabrics based on what we have interpreted them to be, and what is most likely available in different parts of the world. The CRL will not call out or list any particular brand. The building member will have to decide, and possibly with input from their GML, what optional fabric should/can be used. Questions can be asked in that thread, or the GML's Q&A thread on the Legion forums. 1 Quote
Nezhdanov Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Thanks for the response and the comments makes sense [emoji1303]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Motogpnut Posted May 16, 2021 Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) My build has been as close to the Peter Diamond as we can get, so it’ll be interesting to see those requirements as well. Will that require a separate picture? Will it still be in the tab format? Three tabs then. ANH, Bantha then Peter Diamond? Edited May 16, 2021 by Motogpnut Quote
fleasome Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) The following are my opinions and I am not an expert. Nor is my ANH Tusken perfect but I am endeavoring to update things I noticed 'after the fact' as well. I am ordering all metal head greeblies including the blood spitters with the bulbs on the end, have got a third banolier....et cetera. Perhaps this is a normal process. You build one and then see everything you could of done better. When I first joined this site to make my costume it was a bit daughnting to sort through and find all the correct information and I honestly thing most of my education started really flowing AFTER my build was done (or thought it was done) and I started trying to help one friend, then another... I do not think anyone is stating when this CRL gets updated to make the tusken movie accurate, that anyone already approved needs to be unapproved. I do not think that has ever happened in the past. So any updates should just help the new generation get things better and maybe encourage us to correct some of our mistakes in the past...though I do not think mistakes is the correct word really. I would use the word ignorance but so many people take affront to that word. Ignorance just means 'I didn't know'. I don't know how to build nor pilot a space ship to the moon.....so I am ignorant of that. It isn't negative.....but I digress. Helmet Mask - Eye Greeblies - Personal opinion is the 2 eye stalks should be 'required' to be approximately 45 rather than 'may be'. - Blood Spitters - Bulb at the end Neck Breather - There is a Max Diameter of 2", probably need a minimum diameter as I have seen some really small 3D prints that do not look right. - The bend, per all the reference photos I have seen should start immediately at the flare nuts. That's all I can contribute at the moment without more meds. Typing hurts. Edited May 18, 2021 by fleasome Testing signature update - can't seem to delete sig Quote
JSmails Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 Really great edits. I love the “under skirt” section but, as more behind the scenes stuff comes out, I believe eventually we’ll be able to prove that there is no “skirt”, so to speak, but it’s just a giant inner robe wrapped in and around itself. I agree that we should have the skirt to get the screen accurate look. It just won’t be required to be “prop accurate”. Which works just fine. Good work so far! 1 Quote
TrooperPX Posted May 23, 2021 Author Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 9:27 AM, Motogpnut said: My build has been as close to the Peter Diamond as we can get, so it’ll be interesting to see those requirements as well. Will that require a separate picture? Will it still be in the tab format? Three tabs then. ANH, Bantha then Peter Diamond? The Generic Tusken is a blend of all Tuskens we see on film. The Bantha Rider follows this and is an option based on how the costume is worn. This CRL will be a two-tab version. Peter Diamond elements are listed as "may", so the costumer can incorporate what they want to make their own personal Tusken. The Peter Diamond Tusken will be a separate "character" CRL where all specific details will need to be seen. In it's essence, this is your L3 requirement. It's the only Tusken where 90% of the details can be confirmed which is why we have never had Levels in the KC. 1 Quote
TrooperPX Posted May 23, 2021 Author Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/18/2021 at 6:58 AM, fleasome said: The following are my opinions and I am not an expert. Nor is my ANH Tusken perfect but I am endeavoring to update things I noticed 'after the fact' as well. I am ordering all metal head greeblies including the blood spitters with the bulbs on the end, have got a third banolier....et cetera. Perhaps this is a normal process. You build one and then see everything you could of done better. When I first joined this site to make my costume it was a bit daughnting to sort through and find all the correct information and I honestly thing most of my education started really flowing AFTER my build was done (or thought it was done) and I started trying to help one friend, then another... I do not think anyone is stating when this CRL gets updated to make the tusken movie accurate, that anyone already approved needs to be unapproved. I do not think that has ever happened in the past. So any updates should just help the new generation get things better and maybe encourage us to correct some of our mistakes in the past...though I do not think mistakes is the correct word really. I would use the word ignorance but so many people take affront to that word. Ignorance just means 'I didn't know'. I don't know how to build nor pilot a space ship to the moon.....so I am ignorant of that. It isn't negative.....but I digress. Helmet Mask - Eye Greeblies - Personal opinion is the 2 eye stalks should be 'required' to be approximately 45 rather than 'may be'. - Blood Spitters - Bulb at the end Neck Breather - There is a Max Diameter of 2", probably need a minimum diameter as I have seen some really small 3D prints that do not look right. - The bend, per all the reference photos I have seen should start immediately at the flare nuts. That's all I can contribute at the moment without more meds. Typing hurts. Let's make it clear right away, that the 501st does not "unapprove" anyone when a CRL is updated. The Legion has always had the "grandfather clause" in it's Charter. Your costume will always remain an approved costume so long as you retain your Legion membership: Trooping once a year at an official event (in any costume), visiting the Legion Forums once a year, and completing your annual census. Unapproving a member's costume based on CRL updates will never happen. Improvements to your costume are voluntary, and need only be signed off on by your GML so they know you did them. Improvements to your costume do not need to be submitted for approval as a new costume, unless you wish to retire that costume and build a new one from the ground up. Changing details of the CRL does not reveal there were "mistakes". The original film-accuracy has always been there. The first CRLs were what we could see in the actual film... from watching the VHS tape, then trying to pause the DVD, and eventually the advent of digital freeze frame when they were put to BluRay. This has served us all well for the last decade. But now in just the past year, we have unprecedented access to details from the new 4K system, which allows us to not only freeze a frame, but extract it as an image where we can zoom in, sharpen, enhance, etc. as never before. If it weren't for the Tusken labled as "C", I would agree with the eyestalks required to be at 45*. But theirs are almost straight across, so that needs to be an option. As for the blood spitters, we can infer they all have the lip around the end . But can only confirm it to be on two of the four masks, therefore needs to be an option. Good points on the breather. Let me tweak that wording. 1 Quote
TrooperPX Posted May 23, 2021 Author Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/20/2021 at 3:41 AM, JSmails said: Really great edits. I love the “under skirt” section but, as more behind the scenes stuff comes out, I believe eventually we’ll be able to prove that there is no “skirt”, so to speak, but it’s just a giant inner robe wrapped in and around itself. I agree that we should have the skirt to get the screen accurate look. It just won’t be required to be “prop accurate”. Which works just fine. Good work so far! I'll tweak the wording so if a member wants to make a full inner robe they can. 1 Quote
Motogpnut Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 This is absolutely fantastic, David. Thank you for working on this. I really believe this will help future builders by making things much clearer. 1 Quote
Motogpnut Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Really great edits. I love the “under skirt” section but, as more behind the scenes stuff comes out, I believe eventually we’ll be able to prove that there is no “skirt”, so to speak, but it’s just a giant inner robe wrapped in and around itself. I agree that we should have the skirt to get the screen accurate look. It just won’t be required to be “prop accurate”. Which works just fine. Good work so far!I think I figured out what the “skirt” actually is. It’s a Hakama. I made a long post about my finding on my WIP. Let me know what you think, August. You as well, Dave. Quote
Nezhdanov Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 The samurai approach is interesting and I prefer this to the skirt approach. Our inner robes have two layers at the front and one at the back and sewn in pleats where the waist sash is which I’m happy are along the lines of what the robes show in the film but is not the skirt approach or the samurai approach. I feel you can get the same effect outside of the skirt/samurai approach. Having ‘this is how to do a robe’ in the crl can be helpful but to have just one approach where a few approaches seem valid, at least to me, is unnecessarily limiting.I would prefer a crl where if someone did the samurai approach and the results looked like in the film I would say fine, if someone wanted to do the skirt approach and the results look like in the film I would say fine. If someone did something else but the results looked like in the film I would say fine but to have just the skirt as the only option I feel is short sighted.I would go along with the skirt/samurai approach if I had to but I would remain unconvinced these are the only/best way to get the same result.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
TrooperPX Posted August 14, 2021 Author Posted August 14, 2021 Good points. We will leave the skirt as an option for this CRL, but it will be specifically noted in the new "Luke Attack" CRL. Quote
thebrighton Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Just looking for clarification on the new ANH Tusken CRL around the skirt. The above post says it will be an option on the standard CRL but it is listed under the required components rather than optional accessories. Naturally the under robe/skirt is worn under the inner robe so am confused over this line if using a skirt "it should have slightly more fulness than the inner robe for the proper drape". If worn under the inner robe any fulness will be constrained by the inner robe. This also suggests if you go for the robe rather than skirt it doesn't have to have the same level of fulness. Surely it should be the same? Being really picky the inner robe states "inner robe should reach to approximately the instep of the boots or slightly above it" whilst the under robe/skirt says "under robe hem should extend 2" to 4" (5-10cm) beyond / below the hem of the inner robe". Queue lots of tripping over your own costume Am I right in thinking version 2 of the CRL will be the Peter Diamond one as there is now a separate Bantha Rider CRL but as yet it's not been finalised? Many thanks for updating the CRL clearing up grey areas and producing a much more screen accurate Tusken but I feel there are still some areas needing rewording. Quote
Orar Kad Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Is there a link I can follow to see the outer robe discussion? I have one made with a coarse canvas drop cloth from Walmart, but I don't want to try and apply if that will get kicked back for not being accurate enough. I noticed that the part mentioning monks cloth was removed in the revised crl list at the top of this thread, I would prefer not to have to pay $20 a yard for monks cloth if at all possible, if there is a way either to work with the robe I have now, or to make one with cheaper materials.Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk Quote
thebrighton Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Just a bump on my query over clarification of the new CRL. Quote
thebrighton Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 I have members currently building Tuskens and they are confused over the CRL as mentioned a couple of posts up and I note a GML also asking for clarification over on 501st. The proposed changes were excellent but the CRL has not been correctly updated and is causing more confusion than the previous version. Can someone please have a look at it and tidy it up. 1 Quote
Nezhdanov Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Yes some clarification would be helpful, the ‘Under Robe, Under Skirt’ especially needs to state if it is only a requirement for ‘Peter Diamond’ builds or if everyone, even generic Tusken builds have to have it.There is a lot of fabric material in a Tusken build already so it would be a shame if lack of a simple skirt clarification was a barrier for new Tusken costumers.I think Gareth’s questions on the 23/08 on the around the details of the skirt / inner robe wording could be clarified also so people better understand what is expected of them for the build.Quite a lot has been tidied up in the crl so it would be good to have these last bits finalised. [emoji1303]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
thebrighton Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Can someone please have a look into this as it is now causing issues. In addition to my original post I note the Bantha Rider CRL has now disappeared and version one and two under Tusken Raider are identical other than the model. You don't need both as they both explain the difference between Raider and Bantha Rider in the bandolier section. The under robe needs moving to options and the erroneous length measurements need addressing and version 2 should be the Peter Diamond "Luke attack" costume. Thank you. 1 Quote
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